Targeting Land The NYS DEC Land Grabbers

HOW LONG HAVE THESE SO CALLED   “Open Space Plans”  Been Going 

How Old are the Open Space Plan Targettings in New York State ? ….…/

The Sequence from 3:33 begins to show how the State of New York FILLED IN LAKE GEORGE by Building the Beach Road . The Withams NEVER Filled IN Lake George in such a manner. New Yor…


THE EMPIRE STATE  has been STEALING LAND since the  Dutch Established Fort Orange ( The Colonia )


The Open Space Planning

Did America steal its land from the Native Americans? – Quora…

Did America steal its land from the Native Americans? … the accusation of “stealing land” may be very accurate, … All land

How Long Were The Withams Targeted 




Working Plan for a Communal Forest for the Town of Ithaca, New York

John S. Everitt – 1921 – ‎Read – ‎More editions

It seems appropriate, therefore, to give the methods of management which could be followed for a communal forest, and to exemplify these methods by a detailed plan of management for a forest in the town of Ithaca. GENERAL CONSIDERATIONS Kind of land best suited for acommunal forest Land should be put to the purpose for which it is best suited. Land for acommunal forest should be essentially forest land, that is, land which is of little value for agricultural purposes but is …

Land Tenure Systems and Forest Policy – Page 70

70 SECTION II – COMMUNAL FORESTS Communal, or municipally owned, forests have widely differing origins.   In Europe they stem mostly from seignorial concessions made in mediaeval times as a countervailing right for the renunciation of those rights which the inhabitants had over the lord’s land. Some such forests will have even more ancient beginnings, with titles going back directly to the tribal forests common among the Germanic and Celtic peoples. Others will be traditional …


From 1921

The American Architect – Volume 118, Part 1 – Page 21

1920 – ‎Read – ‎More editions

The fundamental principle of the league’s campaign is the communal or public forest, which does not mean that it will be less active for private or corporation reforestation. It stands first for the public idea because the private idea will thereby be given encouragement and private effort will then have a constant example of public accomplishment along the same lines. One of the best known examples of a communal forest, cited by the New York Times, is that of ZurichSwitzerland, which …

The Communist  Land Policies of the  EMPIRE  STATE


Communal / COMMUNISTIC Forests the NWO Exposed


The Birth of the  EMPIRE  STATE


World Governance Is Implemented with land Use Controls and…

Property Rights Foundation of America®
Founded 1994″Recommendations for Reform of the
DEC Open Space Conservation Plan,”Chapter 16, The Property Owners Experience – by Carol W. LaGrasse (PRFA, 1998)
The DEC Open Space Conservation Plan Should be Thoroughly Reformed
The DEC Open Space Conservation Plan should be reviewed by a panel of experts and affected parties, including those all who have voluntarily submitted substantial comments. The new final plan should be reflective of suggested reforms such as the requests that the full cost of the entire extant proposed acquisitions be analyzed and properties not be listed without written landowner consent.

The DEC Open Space Conservation Plan should include the maps which are the final working documents for State land acquisition and not be supplemented by parallel secret documents (discussed in Recommendation No. 14). The banquet lists of proposed acquisitions by DEC and the Regional Committees should be pared down and placed into a financially feasible, definite sequence, subject to the approval or veto of local townships. The land acquisition domains 5, 10, 20, 50, and 100 years hence should be mapped to the scale of tax maps, subject to revision in the future to include more land only by a full public hearing process in each county as under SAPA for regulatory revision.

To comply with SEQRA and to institute sound economic policy, the Administration should prepare a financial analysis of the cost to the State to acquire (or preserve by whatever method contemplated) all lands (not just “priority” parcels) contemplated in the Open Space Conservation Plan, including acquisition, capital improvements, upkeep, tax payments, as well as local impact economic analysis of the specifics of 5, 10, 20, 50 and 100-year acquisition domains for each county. Current acquisitions should be mapped to the scale of tax maps. Current acreage analysis and direct tax impacts by counties and townships should be made available immediately. Until this information is published, the final Open Space Conservation Plan and further State land acquisitions should be in abeyance.

Only by completely opening up the land acquisition process and subjecting it to financial disciplines can the behind-the-scenes influences and the surreptitious long-term goals which subject permit applicants to unknowable pressures be eliminated.

Background Problem
The Open Space Conservation Plan and the State’s land acquisition policies are thoroughly intertwined with its regulatory policies. This was first illustrated to me when the plan for the Adirondacks in the Twenty-first Century with its 2/3 million acres of land acquisition and accompanying Environmental Quality Bond Act came out in 1990 to regulate private land, pay for the State acquisition of private Adirondack land and organize the land acquisition. Among other examples, it continued to be displayed in the behavior of State land regulatory agencies to perpetuate State land acquisition.

The DEC’s Open Space Conservation Plan is a banquet list of potential additions to the State’s land holdings, deceptive in its broadness. It is prepared without effective input from local communities or affected property owners, without economic impact analysis or compliance with SEQRA.

The boundaries of the full gamut of properties referred to in the Open Space Conservation Plan for potential acquisition, including all parcels, not only priority parcels, are unknowable to the public or affected property owners.

Property owners are unable to know what pressure they will face when applying for permits from state agencies. One source of pressure is that State agencies are making judgements not on the basis of statute but holding up permits under consideration that land should be preserved for future government acquisition.

Opportunistic acquisition(1) by the State from an applicant that happens to come before an agency like the APA come out of the blue because the agency has the power to make land acquisition decisions unilaterally. This opportunism gives the agency unfair leverage in extracting permit concessions from the applicant.

Because the acquisition plan is not subject to financial analysis, definitiveness or public scrutiny, it is altered at will by regulators to accomplish goals of the minute, dependent on the vulnerability of applicants.

Communities have no way at present of knowing the future of the amount and location of government land within their borders. This is of hindrance to planning by property owners and others, and leaves people insecure.

One example will suffice to demonstrate the effectiveness of an overly long, banquet list of proposed acquisitions in concealing any real information. The Region 3 acquisition list includes no less than 158 areas for preservation, some as large as a mountain or as long as a substantial trail. Each of these generally contain many separate parcels. The scope of the list obviates any purpose of defining lands for acquisition. In addition, a shorter list of priority areas is included but their scope and schedule of acquisition are undefined. In fact, with some Region 3 priority areas currently listed for acquisition, the reference is to “including but not limited to,” which makes even the priorities specifically indeterminate.

Comments by Others
During the 1997 Draft Open Space Conservation Plan review period, certain formal comments were submitted by others which deserve referencing here.(2)

1. Roland R. Vosburgh, Director, Columbia County Planning Department
Letter of December 15, 1997 to Frank Dunstan, DEC

This definitive commentary is the first attempt to raise the spectrum of public policy issues that the Open Space Conservation Plan impinges on. It should be studied by every member of the Legislature and all those in both State and local policy-making positions in New York State land preservation issues.

“Public policy should not be controlled by interest groups. I have been involved in this process since the beginning and my experience at the regional advisory committee, the public hearings, and the review of written comments on previous plans is that the input is primarily on getting new sites on the state acquisition list. Thus, out of the limited number of complete reports distributed in the state, I expect that only a very few people actually read the entire document and that the focus of most people is the priority list.
“In the spirit of opening up and widening the debate on the commitments established by the State of New York in the Plan, I have summarized… some of the issues which I believe have not been adequately addressed.” (p.1)

Mr. Vosburgh’s discussion encompasses philosophical issues including need, stewardship versus acquisition, and over-emphasis on land acquisition; fiscal issues such as true cost and payments in lieu of taxes; and procedural issues, including plan preparation and implementation, dealing with property owners, dealing with local governments, and dealing with third parties in acquisitions.

The final point of this commentary pertains to the land trusts.

“The legislature should support a comprehensive study of the role of third parties in state land acquisition to be undertaken by a neutral entity with the purpose of reporting both advantages and abuses and recommendations for removing the secrecy surrounding the current procedures.” (p.6)

2. New York Blue Line Council
Comments by Pieter V. C. Litchfield, President, December 9, 1997
The Council’s key points are:

“New York State should document for each property included in the Priority List the economical and social impacts, both positive and negative, of such acquisition;
“New York State should refrain in all cases from the taking of private property by eminent domain; and
“No property should be included in the Open Space ‘Priority List’ without prior consent of the landowner.”

3. Finch, Pruyn & Company, Inc.
Comments by Roger A. Dziengeleski, Woodlands Manager, December 22, 1997

Finch, Pruyn & Co. is the second-largest landowner in New York State, with 164,000 acres of forestland, primarily in the Adirondack Park. The firm has owned the vast majority of its land for over 100 years.

Although Finch, Pruyn has donated or sold over 80,000 acres to the Forest Preserve, the company believes that, because the state ownership has grown to approximately 3 million acres, “great scrutiny” must be given to additional purchases of private lands.

Because the fulfillment of Finch, Pruyn’s recommendations would substantially contribute to the re-focusing of state policy toward fairer regulation and greater practical respect for the rights of private property owners, selected portions of all their summary points are quoted below:

a. “New York should inform the public of the total costs associated with each new purchase of private land, and the payment prices and annual cost of maintaining its existing landholdings.”
In private ownership, timber land already provides all the values the public cherishes. When the State buys up private land and ceases timber harvesting, a supply of wood for paper, homes and other products disappears. Supplies must come from other states. Jobs and local economies suffer. In addition, the State pays above-market prices and drives private owners away.
The costs which the State should make public when proposing land purchases include:
“the annual costs associated with its current landholdings, including, but not limited to, taxes, operations, road maintenance and search and rescue operations; and
“the purchase price and projected annual maintenance costs for the property to be acquired.”

b. “New York should refrain from participation in third-party acquisition scenarios, which, ultimately, result in the same negative social and economic ramifications as direct purchases.”
Numerous transactions with the intention of eventually selling to the State have been typically at above-market values. The transactions “circumvent legislative restrictions on the use of taxpayer dollars for land acquisition.”

c. “New York has not provided compelling evidence that the projects identified in the draft Plan are deserving of their ‘priority’ designation.”

d. “The State’s Open Space regional advisory committees should include a representative from a wood-using facility to help in ensuring that the complex and highly important issues related to wood supply are adequately addressed.”

e. “New York should categorically reject the use of eminent domain.”

f. “Landowner consent should be required prior to the listing of any property on the Open Space Priority List.”

g. “New York State should encourage greater private landowner investment in the state.”
This recommendation points out that state mandates foisted on localities cause the fourth highest per capita property taxes in the nation, a great burden to private landowners.

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(1) The chart on page 20 of the November 1997 Draft Open Space Conservation Plan illustrates the generally opportunistic nature of DEC’s land acquisition. Item 1 on the chart, whether the project is within a resource system or a project important to the State, is so broad that all of the banquet list of lands in the various parts of the Open Space Conservation Plan apply. Therefore it is meaningless and acquisition is opportunistic. (All of the other criteria listed are easily able to be manipulated to yield any sought-after decision.)
(2) Copies of full comments available upon request from PRFA.




A Brief History of Forestry: In Europe, the United States and Other …

Bernhard Eduard Fernow – 1911 – ‎Forests and forestry

Only for the intensively managed city forests of Zurich and the cantonal forests of Bern are more accurate data available. In the latter, the State forests yield 50 cubic feet in the plateau country, 73 cubic feet, in the middle country, and 76 cubic feet in the Jura, while the communal forests of that canton yield 15, 66 and 56 cubic …

Lumber World Review – Volume 42 – Page 27 – Google Books Result

1922 – ‎Lumber trade

THE FOREST FLOOR CLEAR City, Town and Communal Forests – A Phase of European Forestry That Has Particular Significance for the United States By …. the fact that so much is known of the exact history of that forest through the comprehensive book by the late Ulrich Meister, for many years Stadtforsmeister von Zürich.

A Brief History of Forestry. – Google Books Result

Bernhard Fernow – 2017 – ‎Fiction

Only for the intensively managed city forests of Zürich and the cantonal forests of Bern are more accurate data available. In the latter, the State forests yield 50 cubic feet in the plateau country, 73 cubic feet, in the middle country, and 76 cubic feet in the Jura, while the communal forests of that canton yield 15, 66 and 56 cubic …

American Architect and Architecture

1900 – ‎Architecture

The public forests of the Cantons Uri, Schwyz and Solothurn form a link between State and communal forests. … doubtless, brought about and much furthered as a result of increasing disputes over proprietary rights and their extension ; but while we find in the history of the town- forests of Zurich, as early as 1491, discussion …

The American Architect and Building News

1900 – ‎Architecture

The public forests of the Cantons Uri, Schwyz and Solothurn form a link between State and communal forests. … doubtless, brought about and much furthered as a result of increasing disputes over proprietary rights and their extension ; but while we find in the history of the town- forests of Zurich, as early as 1491, discussion …

U.S. Department of Agriculture Miscellaneous Publication

1938 – ‎Agriculture

323 Sherman, C. B.: Big Land Problem Just Around the Corner 362 review of Hedrick’s History of Agriculture in the State of New York 3859 Sherman, E. A 1881 Best … With Fernand Maurette 4570 Openings for Settlers in Argentina 4415 Siggard, Niels: Fra Sameja til Selveje 4969 Sihlwald communal forestZurich 14 Sila …

History of Zürich – Wikipedia

He endowed the Benedictine convent with the lands of Zürich, Uri, and the Albis forest, and granted the convent immunity, placing it under his direct authority. In 1045, King Henry III granted the convent the right to hold markets, collect tolls, and mint coins, and thus effectively made the abbess the ruler of the city. Zürich …

Bibliography on Land Utilization, 1918-36

1938 – ‎Land use

I. Brazil. With Fernand Maurette cot Openings for Settlers In Argentina 4415 Siogard, Niels: Fra Sameja til Selreje &t Sihlwaid communal forestZurich ;t Sila National Park, Italy Be Socox, F. A.: Challenge of Forest Land __ 1SS Economic Survey of Forest Grazing Oes- sidered _ JS Forest Grazing Policies for the Future IBS …

Bürkliplatz, Zürich – Wikipedia

Bürkliplatz is situated in the historic Alpenquai area near Lake Zurich. It is immediately to the west of the Quaibrücke (Quay Bridge) which crosses the river Limmat at the outflow of the lake known as the lake shore promenades or Quaianlagen. The Bürkliplatz is the only square between the General-Guisan-Quai and the …

The Birth of the  EMPIRE  STATE


World Governance Is Implemented with land Use Controls and…